On va éviter de dériver sur un débat sur l'avortement.

The Utah Monetary Declaration

WHEREAS, money, as a medium of exchange, a store of value, and a unit of measure promotes economic activity, growth and productivity by facilitating specialization and trade, the accumulation of wealth and its long-term investment, as well as accountability in setting prices, tracking progress, and settling accounts;

WHEREAS, natural money – precious metal coin – by virtue of its inherent qualities of recognizability, measurability, uniformity, divisibility, durability, portability and scarcity has reliably retained its purchasing power, notwithstanding periodic fluctuations, over the centuries and millennia of human history, serving as an effective medium of exchange and store of value often without any governmental declaration to require, legitimize or perpetuate its adoption and operation as such;

WHEREAS, sound money, by retaining stable purchasing power over time, best serves societal needs by substantially reducing the uncertainty of inflation risk for creditors and deflation risk for debtors as well as encouraging saving and investment among the general populace and benefiting the economic zone in which it circulates by stimulating the economy and by attracting foreign capital and commerce to the region;

WHEREAS, history attests that monopolistic monetary systems frequently engender currency debasement, resulting in serious consequences such as lost purchasing power, inequitable wealth redistributions, misallocation of productive resources, and chronic unemployment, and that, as the cornerstone of a free market and society, the right to choose, whether between suppliers of goods and services, political parties and candidates, or between alternative media of exchange, effectively promotes the general welfare;

WHEREAS, for the equal protection of all people, rich and poor, the open circulation of complementary and competing currencies should be fostered and promoted by every sovereign state, including those of The United States of America pursuant to their monetary powers (expressly reserved in article 1, § 10 and in the 10th amendment of the United States Constitution) to monetize gold and silver coin as an alternative, voluntary medium of exchange, and as an effective check and balance against debasement of the national currency by the national government which is constitutionally precluded from demonetizing state legal tender, through disparate tax treatment, discriminatory regulation, the threat of suppression and seizure, or otherwise;

NOW THEREFORE, we the undersigned hereby declare and affirm that:

1. As an essential element of true liberty and of the pursuit of happiness in a free society, all people enjoy the inherent and unalienable right to lawfully acquire, hold and use as a medium of exchange whatever form or forms of money they may prefer, including especially gold and silver coin.

2. All free and sovereign states bear the moral, political and legal obligation not only to refrain from debasing their own currencies (except under the most exigent circumstances) and from erecting barriers to the unfettered circulation of monies issued under the authority of their sovereign trading partners, but also to affirmatively defend and protect against fraud, counterfeiting, uttering, passing off, embezzlement, theft or neglect by requiring full transparency and accountability of all state chartered financial institutions.

3. No tax liability nor any regulatory scheme promoting one form of money over another should apply to: (a)the holding of any form of money, in a financial institution or otherwise; (b) the exchange of one form of money for any other; or (c) the actual or imputed increase in the purchasing power of one form of money as compared to another.

4. Except in the case of government assessed taxes, fees, duties, imposts, excises, dues, fines or penalties, the authority of government should never be used to compel payment of any obligation, contract or private debt in any specific form of money inconsistent with the parties’ written, verbal or implied agreement, or to
frustrate the intent of contracting parties or impair contractual obligations by invalidating the application of a discount or surcharge agreed to be dependent upon the particular medium of exchange or method of payment employed.

5. The extent and composition of a person’s monetary holdings, including those on deposit with any financial institution, should not be subject to disclosure, search or seizure except upon adherence to due process safeguards such as requiring an adequate showing of probable cause to support the issuance by a court of competent jurisdiction of a lawful warrant or writ executed by legally authorized law enforcement officers.

We hereby urge business leaders, educators, members of the media, legislators, government officials as well as judicial and law enforcement officers to use their best combined efforts to reinstate and promote the legal and commercial framework necessary to establishing and maintaining well-functioning, sound monetary systems based on choice in
currency. The signatories hereto concur in the general principles expressed in the foregoing declaration notwithstanding specific reservations some may have as to how such principles should be interpreted and applied in practice.

Ce n'est pas un doc officiel, mais un spamm IRL dans les rues des villes de l'Etat d'Utah.

Etant donné ses positions il a tout les lobbys contre lui, autant dire qu'il ne pourra jamais être président, surtout qu'aux USA les campagnes présidentielle se chiffre en milliards de dollards.

Sans débattre de l'avortement, c'est tout à fait cohérent d'être contre l'avortement en suivant une position libérale.

Sanksounet flemme de lire, en gros ça dit uqoi ?

J'ai pas vraiment l’impression qu'il vise l'électorat ultra-conservateur, quand on voit ses positions sur le mariage gay et les drogues dures par exemple.

Pour ceux que ça intéresse:

http://s3.noelshack.com/o/old/up/page_28-1176239d56.jpg

http://s3.noelshack.com/o/old/up/page_27-3b181ffe11.jpg

J'ai ris à la description de Ron Paul

Ron Paul a-t-il toujours été aussi bas dans les sondages ?

http://blogues.cyberpresse.ca/hetu/2011/10/05/presidentielle-2002-cain-a-egalite-avec-romney/

https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-69-2485500-1-0-1-0-ron-paul-gagne-encore.htm

Si l'Histoire des 600 votants est vrai ça enlève pas mal de pertinente au sondage, faudrait plus voir les sondages à l'échelle nationale.

De toute manière que ce soit 600 ou 10000 personnes, un vote de paille reste un vote de paille. C'est à dire un truc non-représentatif.

http://www.rfi.fr/ameriques/20110213-etats-unis-republicains-elisent-ron-paul-comme-candidat-favori-presidentielle-201

Ron Paul favori des républicains, pour la deuxième année consecutive

Certes, la base militante de Ron Paul doit être très forte et motivée, mais est-ce que le républicain de base, pas militant mais qui va voter aux vrais primaires va vraiment préférer un Ron Paul à un Rick Perry ou à una Buchanale ? Honnêtement j'en doute, faudrait plutôt voir au niveau des sondages des sympathisants.

Perso certaines idées libertariennes deplairons aux conservateurs traditionnels

Il faudrait un cataclysme économique, j'y crois moyen...

[Plutonium] Posté le 11 octobre 2011 à 09:44:36
http://www.rfi.fr/ameriques/20110213-etats-unis-republicains-elisent-ron-paul-comme-candidat-favori-presidentielle-201
Ron Paul favori des républicains, pour la deuxième année consécutive
ton lien date de février.

Chaud j'avais même pas fait gaffe, un mec l'avait posté sur actu

http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/ron-paul-follows-straw-poll-win-with-3rd-place-finish-in-nh/

Après le triomphe du Values Voter Summit (Ron Paul à 37%, Romney 6%, Perry 4%), Ron Paul est arrivé troisième dans un poll du New Hampshire.
A noter que Perry est totalement out dans cet état une fois de plus, puisqu'il ne dépasse pas les 6% avec plusieurs autres candidats comme Santorum, Huntsman, Bachmann..

Romney 38%
Cain 20%
Ron Paul 13%
Perry 0-6%

Après, ce sondage représente vraiment rien cependant, seulement 648 personnes interrogées par téléphone dans tous les US. Donc c'est pas représentatif, même si on sait que Perry est à la ramasse dans le NH.

Excellente vidéo:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlld64_des-troupes-armees-chinoises-au-texas_news#from=embediframe

Effectivement j'ai beaucoup aimé. Il serait intéressant de voir la réaction de quelques américains interventionnistes à ce sujet.